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The Performance of Empathy (Ep. 501)

A Conversation with Sherry Turkle

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The Performance of Empathy (Ep. 501)

A Conversation with Sherry Turkle

Sam Harris

Nov 03, 2026

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Sam Harris speaks with Sherry Turkle about her new book,

Artificial Intimacy.

They discuss the early optimism of the internet, the attention economy, the loss of solitude and boredom, the decline of empathy, whether the performance of empathy can ever be enough, AI as therapist, the first-person pronoun as the “original sin” of generative AI, humanoid robots and consciousness, loneliness among older people, and other topics.

Sherry Turkle

is the Abby Rockefeller Mauzé Professor of the Social Studies of Science and Technology at MIT and the founding director of the MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. She is

The New York Times

bestselling author of

Alone Together

,

Reclaiming Conversation

,

and

The Empathy Diaries

.

Turkle’s most recent book is

Artificial Intimacy: Who We Become When We Talk to Machines.

Website:

sherryturkle.com

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Sam is also the creator of the Waking Up app. Combining Sam’s decades of mindfulness practice, profound wisdom from varied philosophical and contemplative traditions, and a commitment to a secular, scientific worldview, Waking Up is a resource for anyone interested in living a more examined, fulfilling life—and a new operating system for the mind.

Waking Up offers free subscriptions to anyone who can’t afford one, and donates a minimum of 10% of profits to the most effective charities around the world. To learn more, please go to WakingUp.com.

Sam Harris received a degree in philosophy from Stanford University and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from UCLA.

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